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	<title>Comment&#252;s on: National Day of Prayer</title>
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		<title>By: charlie</title>
		<link>http://politicalcartel.com/2008/05/01/national-day-of-prayer/#comment-3436</link>
		<dc:creator>charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 07:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just stumbled across this blog and I must say you guys take yourselves WAY TOO SERIOUSLY.

You're in college for f*ck sake.  Have a beer and try to get laid for once.  It will do you good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just stumbled across this blog and I must say you guys take yourselves WAY TOO SERIOUSLY.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re in college for f*ck sake.  Have a beer and try to get laid for once.  It will do you good.</p>
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		<title>By: S.C. Denney</title>
		<link>http://politicalcartel.com/2008/05/01/national-day-of-prayer/#comment-3386</link>
		<dc:creator>S.C. Denney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 05:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They didn't... I don't think. Honestly, I wasn't paying attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They didn&#8217;t&#8230; I don&#8217;t think. Honestly, I wasn&#8217;t paying attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Crocker</title>
		<link>http://politicalcartel.com/2008/05/01/national-day-of-prayer/#comment-3385</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Crocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 05:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually think the National Day of Prayer was invented to draw attention away from May Day, the plight of workers, and European-style economics. Did you know that the Longshoreman's Union shut down all 15 U.S. West Coast ports today? I think that was the number. How did that come across when they announced it in chapel? Or, didn't they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think the National Day of Prayer was invented to draw attention away from May Day, the plight of workers, and European-style economics. Did you know that the Longshoreman&#8217;s Union shut down all 15 U.S. West Coast ports today? I think that was the number. How did that come across when they announced it in chapel? Or, didn&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: David M. Manes</title>
		<link>http://politicalcartel.com/2008/05/01/national-day-of-prayer/#comment-3378</link>
		<dc:creator>David M. Manes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 22:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a good point.  Perhaps another question to consider is whether the Old Testament prophetic and the ancient Hebrew views of how God related to the people directly translate to today's world.  

I tend to think that although the prophets are clearly powerful theologians and interesting writers, their concept of God was somewhat primitive in certain regards.  Their view of God's interaction through geopolitical and natural events is no longer accepted by very many people today.  If there is anyone who proposes that kind of worldview, the rest of society generally responds very critically.  

I guess I also wonder if their concept of God was incomplete or inaccurate.  At times, they may anthropomorphize the Almighty too much.  You are right, though.  These are difficult questions to answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a good point.  Perhaps another question to consider is whether the Old Testament prophetic and the ancient Hebrew views of how God related to the people directly translate to today&#8217;s world.  </p>
<p>I tend to think that although the prophets are clearly powerful theologians and interesting writers, their concept of God was somewhat primitive in certain regards.  Their view of God&#8217;s interaction through geopolitical and natural events is no longer accepted by very many people today.  If there is anyone who proposes that kind of worldview, the rest of society generally responds very critically.  </p>
<p>I guess I also wonder if their concept of God was incomplete or inaccurate.  At times, they may anthropomorphize the Almighty too much.  You are right, though.  These are difficult questions to answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve M</title>
		<link>http://politicalcartel.com/2008/05/01/national-day-of-prayer/#comment-3377</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 21:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In his article on “Day of Prayer”, David Manes raises the question of whether formal organization and coordinated prayers can increase the amount of influence humans can have with God.  Actually, the idea of having a national day of prayer dates back to Old Testament days.  In the Bible the “Solemn Assembly” (Hebrew, atzeret) referred to gatherings of people for solemn religious purposes.  In response to a national emergency, the prophet Joel said “Declare a fast; call a sacred assembly.  Summon the elders and all who live in the land to the house of the LORD your God, and cry out to the LORD” (Joel 1:14).

The logic behind the Sacred Assembly appears to be that a communal religious activity will make a bigger impact upon God than an individual activity.  To an extent, the people today who call for group prayer efforts are at least partly “biblical” in their thinking.  There is a big warning to consider at this point, however.  The Hebrew prophets also condemned some of the Solemn Assemblies because of the hypocrisies in the lives of the Israelites (Isaiah 1:13;  Amos 5:21).  So where does this leave us?  Are our national days of prayer justified and desirable in the eyes of God, or should they be condemned as hypocritical wastes of time?  This is not an easy question to answer.  Only a Hebrew prophet would know for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his article on “Day of Prayer”, David Manes raises the question of whether formal organization and coordinated prayers can increase the amount of influence humans can have with God.  Actually, the idea of having a national day of prayer dates back to Old Testament days.  In the Bible the “Solemn Assembly” (Hebrew, atzeret) referred to gatherings of people for solemn religious purposes.  In response to a national emergency, the prophet Joel said “Declare a fast; call a sacred assembly.  Summon the elders and all who live in the land to the house of the LORD your God, and cry out to the LORD” (Joel 1:14).</p>
<p>The logic behind the Sacred Assembly appears to be that a communal religious activity will make a bigger impact upon God than an individual activity.  To an extent, the people today who call for group prayer efforts are at least partly “biblical” in their thinking.  There is a big warning to consider at this point, however.  The Hebrew prophets also condemned some of the Solemn Assemblies because of the hypocrisies in the lives of the Israelites (Isaiah 1:13;  Amos 5:21).  So where does this leave us?  Are our national days of prayer justified and desirable in the eyes of God, or should they be condemned as hypocritical wastes of time?  This is not an easy question to answer.  Only a Hebrew prophet would know for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Unsubscribe Me &#171; Political Cartel</title>
		<link>http://politicalcartel.com/2008/05/01/national-day-of-prayer/#comment-3376</link>
		<dc:creator>Unsubscribe Me &#171; Political Cartel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 21:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Maybe this is something to pray about today, since it is the National Day of Prayer.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Maybe this is something to pray about today, since it is the National Day of Prayer.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: S.C. Denney</title>
		<link>http://politicalcartel.com/2008/05/01/national-day-of-prayer/#comment-3375</link>
		<dc:creator>S.C. Denney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 20:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Da!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Da!</p>
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		<title>By: David M. Manes</title>
		<link>http://politicalcartel.com/2008/05/01/national-day-of-prayer/#comment-3374</link>
		<dc:creator>David M. Manes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 20:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In an ironic combination of events, today is also May Day, or &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workers%27_Day" rel="nofollow"&gt;International Workers' Day&lt;/a&gt;.  

So you can pray for the nation, and then go out and party with your comrades!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an ironic combination of events, today is also May Day, or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workers%27_Day" rel="nofollow">International Workers&#8217; Day</a>.  </p>
<p>So you can pray for the nation, and then go out and party with your comrades!</p>
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		<title>By: Zu</title>
		<link>http://politicalcartel.com/2008/05/01/national-day-of-prayer/#comment-3373</link>
		<dc:creator>Zu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 18:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the suggested reading Denney.  I will walk over to B&#38;N now in hopes they have back copies.

I agree.  Abandoning any organized effort is illogical.  I just believe these organized efforts could be better managed and supplied outside of government and her lobbyists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the suggested reading Denney.  I will walk over to B&amp;N now in hopes they have back copies.</p>
<p>I agree.  Abandoning any organized effort is illogical.  I just believe these organized efforts could be better managed and supplied outside of government and her lobbyists.</p>
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		<title>By: David M. Manes</title>
		<link>http://politicalcartel.com/2008/05/01/national-day-of-prayer/#comment-3372</link>
		<dc:creator>David M. Manes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 17:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Far be it from me to discount the value of hope, but not all hopes are equal.

The hope that we can unite together to achieve our common purposes through combined resources is one thing.  That hope is based upon our own years of experience doing it as well as the negative effects we have experienced with the opposite.  It is also supported by even the most cursory analysis of the other industrial nations of the world.

The hope that somehow our society would function better if we broke apart and abandoned our organized common efforts at improving society is not only unproven, it is counter-factual and illogical.  It still falls under the category of hope I suppose, but it is not a hope worth having.  

The quote that S.C. put on our blog logo seems appropriate.  In a similar way, humans can achieve great things when united together, but separate from organized systems, they fail to meet those expectations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far be it from me to discount the value of hope, but not all hopes are equal.</p>
<p>The hope that we can unite together to achieve our common purposes through combined resources is one thing.  That hope is based upon our own years of experience doing it as well as the negative effects we have experienced with the opposite.  It is also supported by even the most cursory analysis of the other industrial nations of the world.</p>
<p>The hope that somehow our society would function better if we broke apart and abandoned our organized common efforts at improving society is not only unproven, it is counter-factual and illogical.  It still falls under the category of hope I suppose, but it is not a hope worth having.  </p>
<p>The quote that S.C. put on our blog logo seems appropriate.  In a similar way, humans can achieve great things when united together, but separate from organized systems, they fail to meet those expectations.</p>
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